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Rob Pattinson as Eric Packer
He tried to read his way into sleep but only grew more wakeful. He read science and poetry. He liked spare poems sited minutely in white space, ranks of alphabetic strokes burnt into paper. Poems made him conscious of his breathing. A poem bared the moment to things he was not normally prepared to notice. This was the nuance of every poem, at least for him, at night, these long weeks, one breath after another, in the rotating room at the top of the triplex. (C p. 5 the first page)
Raymond Massey

Gail Wynand in The Fountainhead has his bedroom at the top of his penthouse where it is glassed all around. The world can watch him fuck women. A little bit of trivia that DeLillo throws in for Ayn Rand intelligentsia. A "floating sign"? 
"When she entered his bedroom, she found it was not the place she had seen photographed in countless magazines. The glass cage had been demolished. The room built in its place was a solid vault without a single window. It was lighted and air-conditioned, but neither light nor air came from the outside."When Dominique enters his penthouse after their marriage.

Patricia Neal and Gary Cooper - Fountainhead
Alert cue, alert cue!


He bypassed sleep and rounded into counterpoise, a moonless calm in which every force is balanced by another. This was the briefest of easings, a small pause in the stir of restless identities. (C p.5-6)

The dialectic is stilled, balanced, the see-saw is even, straight across. It's not charting. The line is flat. Like a brain-dead flatline on the oscilloscope. 


Every act he performed was self-haunted and synthetic. The palest thought carried an anxious shadow. (c p.6)

The appearance of the Double, just barely sensed, like a shadow. Restless identities stirring. Death enters the novel quietly, on the first two pages, like a shadow, with the appearance of the Double.

DeLillo writes in this way: He types a paragraph on one sheet of white paper, edits it, retypes it again on another white sheet of paper, re-edits it, etc until it reads the way he wants it to read. There is always plenty of white around the paragraph. If you have ever seen a shot of an Ayn Rand manuscript, not like DeLillo at all.

Eric Packer:
When he died he would not end. The world would end. (C p.6)
Freud is finished. (dead). Einstein is next. (to die) Their worlds are dead.(C p.6)

On reading Ayn Rand and the World She Made by Anne Heller:

On the last page:

"It is not I who will die, it is the world that will end," Ayn Rand liked to say. It is a favorite quote of hers her fans like so much.

DeLillo is challenging Baudrillard on ending global capitalism through narrative transcendence, and he is also challenging Rand and  her moral defense of capital. 

Anne Heller
Although Heller's book was published after Cosmopolis, it seems prescient that this quote is on the first page of Cosmopolis and the identical quote is on the last page of Heller's biography of Rand. DeLillo's self chosen book cover for Underworld seems also prescient in its erie image of the coming 9-11. And Cosmopolis is clairvoyant about the 2008 meltdown.
                                                                                                                                      
Nietzsche - Genealogy of Morals
Now I feel that DeLillo's ghost is following me as I am reading Cosmopolis through Atlas Shrugged but even more through Rand herself. I am coming to believe that she is the great unacknowledged post modern philosopher her rather poorly educated disciples have always thought her to be, but not for the same reasons as they. I believe she is Nietzsche's heir, more than Foucault and Baudrillard, and taking in the consideration that she disavowed Nietzsche early on, stopped writing in her journals about him so much, all his thought embedded in her mind went underground. Until Baudrillard came along and blasted it up in my face without even knowing about her.

Does DeLillo intend to just blast her for her defense of capital? Or is DeLillo somehow divining her   unconscious catastrophic collision with capital via Greenspan in the 2008 meltdown. As a defender of capital on a moral foundation of self-interest,  this is the flaw Greenspan told Congress he had found in his thinking.

From Digby at Hullabaloo who blames Rand for the 2008 meltdown.

Digby
Under questioning from Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.), the committee chairman, Greenspan acknowledged that the failure of that expected self-regulation represented "a flaw in the model" he used to analyze economics. "I was going for 40 years or more on the perception that it was working well."
This is the fundamental problem with Randian thinking. They really do believe that capitalism is a moral system in which the people become wealthy because they are morally and intellectually superior to those who don't. Why, it would be wrong for them to not self-regulate and endanger the whole economy, right? It wouldn't make any sense. - Digby

No Digby, that's not the reason they believe it is a moral system. They believe it is a moral system because it is based on man's reason and self-interest. The flaw is self-interest. Why would these financiers destroy their financial empires? Well, Mr. Greenspan, you should have known in 1968. Rand destroyed her lucratively financial, philosophical empire of Objectivism that Nathaniel Branden had built for her, his lover, because he didn't want to fuck her anymore. She wanted to punish him, destroy him, kill him for choosing a beautiful young woman instead of an old brilliant frumpet.

And OMG I believe she was following Nietzsche all this time. Taking every single premise she had and carrying it to the extreme. And every goddamn one of them from sex, to friendship, to love, to her writing,  all of it, to the extreme, to excess. What is Atlas Shrugged as a novel, but a novel that is more a novel than a novel, a hyper-novel, an excessive novel, a novel that is "worse" as Nietzsche would say. All the way to Death as Canetti would say. Being more a capitalist than a capitalist. More so. Worse as Nietzsche advocates to bring something down. To destroy it. This is where Baudrillard kills Foucault in Forget Foucault. This is where Rand does it in reality through Greenspan instead of advocating or writing about it. She is a major philosopher by default. She didn't know she knew.

Does DeLillo know that he knows. I dunno.

To defy the system with a gift to which it cannot respond save by its own collapse and death. Nothing, not even the system, can avoid the symbolic obligation, and it is in this trap that the only chance of a catastrophe for capital remains. ...For it is summoned to answer, if it is not to lose face, to what can only be death. The system must itself commit suicide in response to the multiplied challenge of death and suicide. (Jean Baudrillard - Symbolic Exchange and Death 37)

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curioushairedgal said...

"The flaw is self-interest."
I'm only now coming to this. So Rand implodes the capitalistic notion of self-interest. In AS it's pushed to Death. To become what? Is this what Žižek means when he tells that all of the problems now are the problems of Communism, in the sense that they are the problem of 'communal'. Galt's Gulch is like, what, everyone pursuing their self-interest to the utmost limit so it turns into self-interest for a common good, that can only work if everyone's pursuing the realization of their full potential through self-interest, a society of equals, social capitalism or Scandinavian states deal....I know nothing of this, need to read more. So Rand's imploded capitalism the same way she (fore)saw how what the October Revolution brought about will be imploded through pushing common interest at the expense of self-interest.
Sorry, I'm just incoherently thinking out loud here.

abbeysbooks said...

It's "rational" self-interest which I have a habit of leaving out. But taking the hmmer to self-interst and doing a genealogy of it gets pretty hairy when I even foggily contemplate it. At one point in time did this "self-interest" thing emerge. From what intersections? I am just speculating here: juridical? property rights? No I can't even do that. I am thinking out loud now: Ballard as you might not know was a child in Shanghai during World War II living interned under Japanese occupation and pretty much starving. (As a result he supports using the BOMB, as he says they would NEVER have given up otherwise.) He tells the story of the woman with two young children. All three were starving. She made sure that she ate before feeding her children. Ballard says that she knew if she died by giving all the food to her children, that they would die without her being there to protect them. Now that is a Sophie's Choice! they all made it, but just barely. How impossible it would be to eat yourself while looking at the starving eyes of your children. Can you imagine that! Yes I imagine you can imagine it very easily.

So "rational" self interest is another loaded concept to be smashed. But just hold onto it for a minute. What was "rational" self-interest for Rand when she found out Nathaniel didn't want her anymore, that he wanted a beautiful young model. She was furiously jealous, jealousy furious, of course. Was it rational self interest for her to destroy the NBI empire they built up together? I remember the moment it started. It was big! It would have taken decades to fade and maybe not even then. Without Branden
it was nothing. Rand was under the illusion that her name was the crucial
variable. When actually it was the "relation" of Rand and Branden that was
the crucial variable. Peikoff has never been able to do anything much with
it. He lacked the sexual charisma Branden had, and it was substantial!

Rand was faced with lying and deception. Could she act any less than
Wynand? Or Francisco? Or Roark in dynamiting the Project (forget the name).
She certainly was musing this over as she delayed and tried to find
rationalizations to excuse him. She just couldn't. So she made a moral
decision. Perhaps a subliminal religious one? Destroying the "temple of her
financial empire"? She did it and it cost her immensely in both financial
and psychological ways. But Nietzsche had told her to take everything to
excess. She was totally seduced by Nietzsche, and Babich explains how that
happens to a reader of Nietzsche, especially when young and vulnerable as
Rand was. She was logically following Nietzsche. If she was wrong about
this betrayal and her demanded action, then Francisco's demolishing of his
fortune, Wynand's ruination of The Banner, Dominique's destruction of
herself as a Nietzschean strategy of choosing the "worse", then what was
she going to do with her statement "And I mean it!"

This is what she was thinking when she finally saw that she had to do it
from a moral POV. Not rational self interest at all. But she was in a
closed system. Rand relates everything to everything else as Peikoff has
said in Sciabarra's The Russian Radical. This is because Nietzsche relates
everything to everything else. In this way Nietzsche can talk about
hypocrisy. So can Rand. In an open system interpretation enters,
hermeneutics, and all is lost.

Any way this is me thinking out loud on this.

abbeysbooks said...

For CHG

Yes I think that's exactly what she did. Before that as Zizek says she was more capitalistic than any capitalist; worse as Nietzsche would say and Baudrillard through Nietzsche would say hyper-capital, simulated reality. So deregulate capital. Let capital "float" free. Cyber-capital floats free. It is just numbers in a relation to all other numbers simulating exchange but masking that it is empty, just numbers floating on screens. This is what Packer "gets" and with the searing image of the Burning Man, he sees that sacrifice is "outside" the system when Kinski says "there is no outside" (that's Foucault BTW). Packer deliriously proves Kinski wrong. She has told him "to know and not to act is not to know" and that IMO is a form of parrhesia Eric Packer's action is the action of a parrrhesiaste. (Like Katniss when she shoots the apple in the pig's mouth! LOL!)



And I think the final part of Blacklist Maddox is speaking parrhesia to Ibraheim (? sp) at the end when he has run out of time to interrogate properly so he just hands it to him straight. Forever in prison and your family destroyed if you don't tell where Saddam is as I know you know. The risk of course is that Ibraheim will remain silent. And he will know that if he had had just a little more time, he would have gotten the information and Saddam would be caught.



But Ibraheim has CAUGHT Maddox's parrhesia and knows it was not an empty threat. Was it? Could or would he have told them to do that? If he had, would they? He is clearly furious enough to attempt this revenge. 
And isn't the whole thing torture? Isn't it torture to threaten innocent members of a family to get a confession torture? Isn't it? 
This is how I heard General Patton solved his problem of mid east guerrilla warfare during War II. The first ones he caught, he murdered their entire family, men, women and children. Then he had no more problems with them. Wouldn't this have been a more humane decision now in Irag. It would have been within the Symbolic Order. This is not PC correct strategy. The consequences of not doing it are clear eh?
Still thinking out loud.

curioushairedgal said...

Adam and Eve and self-interest of procreation? Or Foucault's Greek Ethics of Self . So it's rationally irrational, irrationaly rational, for the woman from Ballard's story, for Rand. Do it in a way it cannot be taught, the unknown knows...this is getting all cryptic again, wonderful!

curioushairedgal said...

Yes, Eric's action is a parrhesiast's one. But unlike Katniss, who is speaking truth to authority outside and thus risking in such a way, Eric's authority is that of himself,he is speaking truth to himself and risking it all thus, morally. That final Nancy Babich monologue certainly sounds like someone fearlessly telling the truth to oneself. And Maddox parrhesia is the same, he has no risk 'outside', no authority to confront/compromise other than the moral code within himself. How does Ibrahim know? But that's irrelevant, one doesn't question facing such risk.How does Maddox go on living with this? Is it like he didn't actually killed anyone so he's off the hook?
Yes, it's torture. Unless you confess you'll go home in a black bag is a threat. With that one can deal. Unless you confess the ones you love will be killed is torture. It's reversing the good, a perversity and it looks like it's getting more and more perfected. Where is it that Žižek (I keep mentioning him today, that 'uncleanliness' comment is to blame) talks about torture being discussed in the US media, about it becoming a relevant topic of discussion, that even the liberals who are against it still get involved in?

abbeysbooks said...

In Hegel Zizek covers torture. How when one is tortured it corrupts all past memories also. One could never hear a certain bell again without thinking of the bell in the camps and what they meant there. So early memories are corrupted which once were pleasant and joyful.

kidkennedy said...

Yes, Maddox tortured.
Is there any aspect of war that does not fall under the definition of torture?
People giving ultimatums to others IS war.
Even waiting for a loved one to come home in one piece is torture.
I am not sure that there are any inncocent ones if a war is happening anywhere (less the children).

abbeysbooks said...

Nietzsche says about war that it takes the best of the country and diverts them from all the other things they might have done and in this way the country begins sinking as a culture. We see it in the US. Iraq. Afghanistan. Everywhere really.

Foucault in his genealogy of confession: confession is always followed by the shadow of torture. And Zizek on torture in his Hegel is so encompassing one cringes while reading it.

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abbeysbooks said...

I know Orlov and he is very very good. I wrote this before I had developed more fully my thinking on Rand and continental philosophy. Zizek has now come to a Randian conclusion on capitalism.

John Gregor said...

Zizek has an astounfing depth and breath of work. What are some of your favorites?

abbeysbooks said...

My favorite seems to be the one I'm reading always. All the parts I've read in Less Than Nothing his tome on Hegel I have loved too. Right now I am reading The Year of Dreaming Dangerously and it is wonderful. He mentions Rand rather consistently but not in conjunction with Nietzsche. I studied Objectivism with Rand and the Brandens long ago, so I have picked up what Zizek has missed in her life. She began with Nietzsche when she was 16. Her cousin told her Nietzsche had beat her to all her ideas so she began to read him. Then her first bought book in English was Beyond Good and Evil and she told Barbara whe had underlined all her favorite passages. She knew him well then! And she writes like him in his style and has taken his advice to writers seriously. But she also fought tooth and nail with him on certain issues. He was her Master and she rebelled as well as adored. Zizek hates Nietzsche which is probably why he doesn't connect them.

John Gregor said...

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John Gregor said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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John Gregor said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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John Gregor said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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John Gregor said...

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John Gregor said...

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abbeysbooks said...

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John Gregor said...

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John Gregor said...

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days ago is really good. Reads well, really pushes the mind. I have read quite a
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John Gregor said...

Once your signed up for a class, How long does it take them to get back with you and how do they reach you? I am in the class on Difference and Repitition and now have the book. Deleuze is quite interesting.

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John Gregor said...

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